Episode 5: Halloween Special

Treat yo self to a solid forty seven minutes of spooooooky lady nerd chats. In this episode we talk about the history of Halloween, horror movies and teenage girls, our top five horror heroines, and tell you our plans for the holiday. Happy Halloween, babes!

Relevant Links:

1. Samhain
2. Pinterest Fail
3. Devil’s Night
4. Radiskull- Hella Weenie
5. Sinister is awesome!
6. Paranormal Activity 4 is exactly what you expect it to be. Which is to say nowhere near as good as Paranormal Activity 3.
7. The Sixth Sense scared Flumpy because she is a wuss.
8. Men Women and Chainsaws
9. The Amherst Rape cover-up
10. The Descent
11. Cabin in the Woods
12. Wolf Creek
13. The Ring
14. John Saxon, not James Mason, in Nightmare on Elm Street.
15. Hocus Pocus
16. Tim Curry as Pennywise.
17. Adventure Time is the best show on tv.

Essential Horror Movie Final Girls*

5. Sally Hardesty – The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
4. Nancy Thompson – Nightmare on Elm Street
3. Sarah Carter – The Descent
2. Sydney Prescott – Scream
1. Laurie Strode – Halloween

* Ellen Ripley über alles. She’s disqualified for being just too damned good at final girl.
– Lindsay



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2 responses to “Episode 5: Halloween Special

  1. SilverBirch

    Another interesting episode! I’m not sure I agree on all points, there is a strong history of men being the survivor and suffering the terror of such a role – without even dropping out of film (or even well known film) we have Deliverance, The Deer Hunter, and many non-horror films (pretty much any war film – well, at least the more realistic one – the men are always victims, long term victims, with the terror of men being one of the main issues addressed). It actually seems something of a contradiction to state that the men that are killed in the horror films that do follow this type of schema do not display terror or fear, or that the audience (be it men or women) is less comfortable with seeing this than the women who are victims in these films (who do exist, after all – they just usually all die) – it seems that the audience is more comfortable with their deaths (and this is somewhat backed up by research – people, both men and women, tend to feel more sympathy to women displayed in such circumstances than men) rather than less so. Men being victimized is less noted in many films, but no less present – in fact I’d hazard a guess that it is much more present – the war scenes in Saving Private Ryan alone probably have more men dying and suffering than women in all of the horror films mentioned in this podcast – it seems that the death, and the suffering, of men, are often portrayed as being for a cause – that there is a benefit to their death that outweighs the value of their lives – and this feeling seems to underlie our attitude to the suffering of men in circumstances that do not seem to warrant this.
    If we do look at non-film examples I think it becomes even clearer – men as the ‘final girl’ may even be the norm – I can’t think of a H.P. Lovecraft story that doesn’t have a man in this position, and it’s very common in the writings of Edger Allen Poe and other early horror (Frankenstein, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, and so on), and in contemporary horror fiction it’s no less common – Stephen King often having a man in this position.

    At ~12:20 Nissa mentions that the idea that men and boys don’t so much identify with the main character as want to protect her, but I’m not really sure that that is the case – men are, after all, human, and still feel empathy and identify with the character as portrayed to them – also as they are not present for the events in any way other than a powerless observer any feelings of protection would, it seems, be ultimately futile, and, known to be futile, leaving a sense of powerlessness in the face of danger, reifing their identification with the main character.

    Something not mentioned in this podcast that I feel is very relevant is the treatment of trans folk – which seems very relevant to the topic of gender (and even touched upon in the discussion of Leatherface) – but trans individuals (as well as men who are cross-dressers) are usually depicted as evil or killers – Buffalo Bill, Norman Bates, the aforementioned Leatherface, heck, even the antagonist of The Ring (spoiler alert – she is an intersex individual), and I think that this would have been an interesting and important subject to address.

    All in all though a great episode! Keep it up!

    • Those are excellent points and really made me think about the whole genre in a new way! Thanks for listening and giving me so many new points to think about. I think we’ll be doing an examination of transgendered characters across genre at some point, and it is very true that in horror films have done THE WORST JOB EVER portraying trans folks.

      Stay awesome, Silver Birch.

      – Linds

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